Friday, October 26, 2007

Issue by DAC/1B/07 - Group 5

Polytechnic students are better prepared than JC students for the working world.

21 comments:

hendri said...

Hendri from DAC/1B/07

It is definitely true that Poly students are better prepared than JC students in entering the working world.

Polytechnic is designated to educate student and train them to excel in work. On the other hand, Junior College is preparing students for university.

Another fact is polytechnic focuses equally on both theory and practical. JC tends to focus more on academic achievement.

Furthermore, Polytechnic provides industrial training programme (ITP) for students to obtain working experiences and skills before jumping into real working world.

Students in JC have only two years to complete their A-level, enabling them to adjust better to the U. On the other hand, polytechnic students have three years time to acquire more working skills needed in the future.

Lastly, Diploma conferred by polytechnic is also widely recognised by employees in Singapore. Compared to Junior College, JC graduates only obtain their A level certificate, which is not a good option putting them into resume.

In a nut shell, Polytechnic students are obviously better prepared for working!

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ah zhen said...

Rui Zhen from DAC/1B/07:

I agree with the statement "Polytechnic students are better prepared than JC students for the working world."

Theories learnt in Polytechnic are more applicable in working life than theories learnt in JC. JC students are taught to be prepared for university but Polytechnic students are taught to be prepared for working life.

Polytechnic students also have more hands-on experience during lessons than JC students. Polytechnic students need to be attached to companies during their third year so that they can gain work experince. Although JC students do work on their free time, the experiences they have would be far different from POlytechnic students.

Also,companies would more likely to employ a diploma holder than an 'A' level certificate holder.

In conclusion, Polytechnic students are better prepared for the working world than JC students.

huixian15 said...

I agree with the statement.

Attachment is a learning process which expose polytechnic students in real life working environment as part of the academic curriculum.
They tend to gain valuable lessons and experiences from the challenges in the unpredictable society.
This is a process that JC students don't get to experience.
As the saying says "Real education occurs outside the classroom", I'm sure that polytechnic students are better prepared than JC students for the working world.
Polytechnic students will be more matured, independent and more confident in handling future changes and challenges after their 3 years in polytechnic.

Getting a good education is just a key to enter society.
However, it does not ensure success in one’s life.
To be successful, one must experience the real world outside the school environment.
I believe that we can learn more in the working world than in school.
This is because one will only learn the realities of life when one joins the workforce.

irenetoh said...

IreneToh From DAC/1B/07

i agree with hendri. In polytechnic, students are trained and educated to the working world. Students get to learn different modules in three years of study depend on the course they choose. Although it take one more year than JC students but the extra time is worthwhile. It means students get to learn more skills which are beneficial to them in future. Polytechnic also provides industrial training programme (ITP) for students to gain job experiences and skills to prepare them for the real working world. Polytechnic life is a challenging and enjoying learning environment for everyone. Polytechnic students can also go university if they meet the qualification criteria.

As for JC students, they are actually more prepared to enter the university than the working world. They are very concern about their academic excellence. They focus more on their study rather than building their students with useful skills. They will be studying on the same subjects for two years to prepare for their A level. It is rather very stressful compared to polytechnic. However, their chance of entering university is greater as more places are put for them.

As ones believe students with a polytechnic diploma is much easier to enter the working industry compare a students with a JC diploma . Therefore, I can conclude that polytechnic students are more prepared than JC students for the working world.

Khat said...

Khatijah from DAC/1B/07

I believe poly students are better prepare to enter the workforce than junior college(JC) students due to the different system both institutions go through.Poly students are able to scale down to what they will ike to do in the future while JC students are yet to decide on what they want to do.That is why JC learning system is more academic and less practical which is require to prepare themselve for the working world

As for polytechnic,it is a mixture between academic and practical.They are given opportunity to experience working world through job attachment.Such opportunity is not made available for JC students.Making them at the losing end when it comes to having experience in the working world.

David said...

David , DAC/1b/07

I agree with the above statement. However, i feel that it is a little unfair to compare polytechnic and junior collages as they are completely different institutions. Polytechnics prepare students for the working world while Junior Collages prepare students for the university.

Hence , the way of teaching in the polytechnic focuses more on hands on whereas junior collages will be more on the academic aspect. Polytechnic also teaches students to be more independent so as to better prepare them for the real world outside.

In conclusion, polytechnic students are definitely better prepared for the working world than their JC counterparts.

yipeng =) said...

YiPeng from DAC/1B/07

There is no doubt about this statement.

What is the main purpose of coming to Poly to further your education? Of course it will be the hands on experience that is required for the working world, isn’t it?

Let us compare the life that students will be going through in Poly and JC. In Poly, students will not be exposed to many thick textbooks, notes and intense revisions. Instead, they are assigned with projects where they can apply what they have learnt in the lecture notes to real life situations, whereas in JC, it is all about homework, revisions and preparing for exams, although they have PW (Project Work).

Sometimes, there are newspaper articles reporting that an A-level certificate is just a passport to universities. Even if he or she has completed her A-level, in the working world she is no better than an O-level graduate. I find this absolutely true. Because there are not much hands on experience for them in JC, maybe not even a bit.

To conclude, Poly is a more practical approach to the working world rather than JC.

Yesheng said...

I agree that polytechnic students are more prepared for the working world than JC students.

This is so because polytechnis students are prepared to take diplomas instead of A-levels. Thus teaching Poly students a much more straight forward method in dealing the various difficulties one can face when he/she goes out to work.

Whereas in JC, students are still taught subjects which are based on books, such as science, humanities subjects and maths which not everyone may put them to specific use in the future.

Therefore, Poly provides a more specific field for each student.

Unknown said...

Gladys from DAC 1B/07

I feel that polytechnic students are definitely better prepared than JC students for the working world.

This is because the polytechnics' aim is to educate their students in a way so that they will be prepared to enter into the working society.Whereas JC students are taught in a similar way as Secondary students,just that the subjects that JC students learnt are more indept than Secondary students.

This is why JC students have a larger percentage of students entering the Universities rather than Polytechnic students as JC students cannot do anything with their "A"levels certificate.They could only at the most get to work in a temporary job.

Many people still has the perception that JC students are definitely better intellectually than Polytechnic students because it is more difficult to enter a Junior College than a Polytechnic.However,it may not seem so.It could be seen in many newspaper articles that shows the wonderful achievements made by a Polytechnic student.

Thus,I feel that Polytechnic students are definitely better prepared than JC students for the working world.

ariel said...

ariel from DAC/1B/07

In my personal opinion, i agree that polytechnic students are better prepared than JC students for the working world.

This may be due to how both institutions are run. The main aim of polytechnics is to train students with relevant and specific skills for the workplace. With more practical and hands-on activities like problem-based learning projects and industrial attachment as part of the curriculum, students are able to apply the theories and skills taught.

On the other hand, junior colleges serves as a stepping stone to universities. Therefore the main aim of junior colleges is to equip foundational knowledge and skills in subject areas they wish to pursue at university level.

In conclusion, polytechnic students are better equipped than JC students for the working world.

Pin Chun said...

Pin Chun DMR/1B/01

I agree.

It is very true that Poly students are much better prepared than JC students in entering the working world.

Polytechnic are focusing and teaching both theory and practical
bases.Whereas Junior College are only emphasizing on theory which are only a higher level of what secondary student are studying.

Moreover,since Poly students are studying things which are related to what they will be working in the
future while JC students are just studying to prepare or get a place in university.

Hence wouldn't it be realistic to say that Poly students are better prepared than JC students in entering the working world.

SNC said...

Suzanna from DCP/1A/27

The statement is quite true from my perspective.

Indeed, secondary school students feel certain that a diploma certificate is almost able to get a job rather than an A level certificate, which they have to further their studies in the university to obtain a Bachelor Degree.

Previously, to get into a JC is a big thing, nowadays, entrance into Poly is the bigger thing. Time has change with students feeling the unwanted stress and stiff competition in JC.

I feel that Poly students may have an upper hand to get job. This is because in Poly, we are taught skills and applications. In JC, students are taught the fundamentals.

However, JC students also have an upper hand because they are required to do an all-rounded education. Like taking sciences with humanities and economics. Unlike Poly students we are majoring in only life sciences, engineering or business. There is no mixing of modules from the business or life sciences.

Overall, in terms of education wise. Both the Poly and JC students complete their required modules in three and two years respectively.

What we, Poly students, learnt, is sufficient to obtain a job with industrial attachment and projects as a compulsory modules to enable and prepare us for the working world.

barney said...

Wei Liang from DCP/1A/27

I have to agree with the statement as that was the chief reason why i ended up in a polytechnic.

We get stuff like projects, lots of hands-on experiments, normal revision, why object A works this way and not that way kind of notes.

On the other hand, JC students have to go through more advanced versions of modules that everyone went through back in secondary school.

I personally feel that we, polytechnic students, are better prepared because of the numerous projects and reports we have to go through. On a side note we were not given formulae on how to derive X from Y.

These projects also helps to teach us how to work better and more efficiently as a team. The modules we choose are also more specialised.

JC students are given the usual number of thick textbooks and a shopping list of notes cum formulae. It basically teaches them to be more hardworking, self-disciplined and master the art of memorising.

The one major advantage I see JC students have over us is the ability to work under pressure.

But if I were an employer, I will want to hire team players that can work together. Having some knowledge and experience will also help along the way.

Therefore, going to a JC might not mean a better life.

Leanna said...

Leanna From DCP 1A 27

It is true that polytechnic students are more prepared than JC students in entering the working world.

Partly because in polytechnic we get to have hands on lessons and lots of group work where we get to find out why this thing works this way not the other. We get to do the research in our group, where at the end of the day we would hand up a individual or group report.

Also polytechnic students get to go on attatchment in their last year so it would means that we get exposure to the real working world and to get skills and working experiences as we learn.

Although JC students learn what they have chosen whithin two years unlike us. They only learn things at its basic unlike us where we get to know things in depth. And also learn things which we are really interested in.

And i feel there is a higher possiblity that companies would choose to hire a person with diploma rather than one with A level certs.

icy caveman said...

Zheng Heng from DCP 1A 27

I agree with the statement.

The courses in JC are preparing the students only for university and not the work force.And the things they learn are still quite basic. While polytechnic students are learning skills that are needed in the working world. But the problem is that many employers are now looking for people who have studied in universities though local university graduates have problem looking for jobs.

Thus, this shows that whether you are a polytechnic student or a JC student, it all comes down to your skills and achievements and the employer.

choonkiat said...

Choon Kiat from DCP 1A 27

I agree with the statement, “Polytechnic students are better prepared than JC students for the working world.”

This is the main reason of coming polytechnic, as having a diploma is widely recognised by employers in Singapore. Polytechnics teaches us the fundamental skills for the area you going to work in. For the junior collage students, if they cannot go up to university, they are doomed as not too much employers recognise the A-level cert.
Besides, the polytechnic teaches you the area you want to work in as the junior collage teaches fundamental subjects that makes you able to go on to the university.

Polytechnics are focusing on the hands-on which is the same as when you go out to work. But for junior collage, it does not teaches you the hands-on instead it teaches you the subjects. If the company would able to choose, they will definitely choose the diploma holders.

Louis said...

Jia Jun DMR 1B01

Yes, I agree that poly students are more prepared than JC students in etering the workforce.

Like hendri had said, polytechnic is built to educate student and also train them to work.

Besides giving the students theory education, poly also have alot of practical for the students. Furthermore, poly also have attachment or we call it Industrial Training Program (ITP). All these are to tain the students to be familiarise with the work place they will most likely to be in. Many companies also work together with poly. Therefore, poly must always create a pool of students who are able to work to satisfy the companies.

As for JC, it focus maining on theory. There are little or no industrial training for the students. Many students who are graduated from JC are going to universities instead of the workforce. The goal for the students between JC and poly are too different. That is why poly students are better prepare to go to workforce than JC students.

Silverice said...

Bin Bin from DAC/1B/07

I only agree with the statement up to a certain extend. No offend to anyone, but I just feel that the topic is going too one sided, so I decided to help the JC side abit, because all the comments here are from poly students so it may tend to be biased.

It may be true that polytechnic provides industrial training programme (ITP) for students to obtain working experiences and skills before the real working world. However, it is only a programme that last for half a year. Compared to the one year advantage of JC students which they can use to obtain real working experience,it is nothing.

JC conditions students to adapt with stress, which is very similar to our society, while in poly life, you can slag some of the times. For example, you can skip lessons, because as long as you attend 75% of the lessons, you will be fine. That is something that you cannot do in real working world.

Poly does not teach every aspect of work, it teaches only the basics. For example, there are many different ways of doing the petty cash account, but we were only taught a few ways.

JC has an element which reflects the working society as well, which is project works just like poly, even though of a lesser quantity. Project work encompasses how new ideas are being created which one may find useful which one may find useful. And it is not only about writing reports it is about group work and carrying surveys and research and giving speeches and presentations. So JC also offers what Poly offers.

The working world do require manual labour which both JC and Poly students can readily take up, as it does not required muach skills needed. Some examples are waiters, office boys, etc.

JC teaches an all rounded education, which allows one to think "out of the box" and finds many ways to solve a maths problem which can improve the agility of the mind, as well as arts and science. This allows them to have a wider selection of jobs compared to ploy students who were taught only one scope of education.

In conclusion, both JC and poly education prepare students for the working world equally.

kwanleng said...

i agree that Poly students are better prepared than JC students in entering the working world.

polytechnic are preparing students in terms of theory and practical. JC tends to focus more on theory and hoping to achieve better results academically.

polytechnic also provides Industrial Training Programme(ITP) for students to have a better grasp of life working in the industry.

in polytechnic, students focus more on the subject we take to prepare us for working life. we have a specific goal in life. whereas in JC, they study for the sake of acquiring a place in the university.
Kwan Leng form DMR/1B/01

Jia Hui said...

Tan Jia Hui from DMR1b01

I totally agree with this statement.

Otherwise known as Pre-U, JCs merely sought to prepare students for University life. Even the subjects offered: Geography, Math, Arts, Biology, Physics, Chemistry, are secondary school-like, with the exception that they are taught more in-depth. This means that JC students are not specialized in a certain field and are definitely not equipped with the proper knowledge to work in that field.

JC students are also required to wear uniform and follow rigid school rules specifying the color of their socks and shoes, length of their skirts etc. In a way, this will make them more like a little school child when compared to the non-uniform, self-disciplined life of a Polytechnic student.

Poly education includes a mandatory training programme in relevant industries and practical hands-on sessions. For example, the Singapore Maritime Academy has a simulator that is modeled after a real ship. It lets students experience the conditions in the engine room, with all its numerous equipment, and also, the different navigation conditions while steering a ship. This gives them a better visualization of life onboard a ship. In addition, students are also given the chance to opt to go sailing as a cadet onboard a ship for their industrial attachment. All these will surely ensure that students are better prepared to enter the working world.

There are also other modules such as the Report Writing and Presentation, Non-Verbal Communication-Body Language, Effective Job Search Skills etc, that will aid students in presenting themselves better, and hence, more confident and ready for the working world.

Therefore, Polytechnic students are definitely better prepared than JC students for the working world.